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Nele Põldvere



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PostPosted: Sat, 11-Feb-2012 19:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watching top gymnastics today, I would prefer a little bit messy but interesting over clean but boring. Messiness can always be improved and I'm sure Kondakova will manage to do it by OG. At least I hope so. I would really like to see her taking over the throne Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 12-Feb-2012 7:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

minerva wrote:

Sooo beatifull routine, classical, elegant and complicated. She needs clean her movements, but it is a great routine. Better than Kondakova Dmitrieva and Merkulova.


FaerieDevilish wrote:
I love this.

Before 2011, she used to have simply choreographed routines that looked good no matter what her performance was, but their aesthetic potential was limited too. It was in the latest competitions in the year that she would perform them beautifully (hoop 2009 Berlin Masters, anyone? I can never find that video anymore), but you had to watch all her performances together to notice her differences. That's the approach used by most gymnasts; whether they perform beautifully or not won't get them medals, so there's no point in starting with a choreo that's complicated anyway.

I am happy to see her choreographies become more complex. It means it will take a lot more effort from her to make them look good, but when they look good they will be the best. I hope that the pressure during the OGs won't get her to perform just for the medal, because these routines aren't suited for that.

ybalka_ wrote:
I'm tired of kondakova speed, she kills any sign of execution and well doing with that speed.


Exactly. The problem is not the speed itself. I mean, who didn't love Godunko? That girl could speed through anything. But Kondakova makes it look like a splatterfest, which sucks because she's an actually damn good gymnast. I wonder how much better her routines would be if they hadn't got fixated on the 'make her run' idea.



ybalka_ wrote:

I'm with you too I like her hoop routine a lot (not her ball though). I'm tired of kondakova speed, she kills any sign of execution and well doing with that speed. Girl, the faster does not mean the better.
First of all she should try to do a single pivot on relevé, she can learn from the juniors of the team who are much better than her in almost every ways.


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I feel Russian team overall is in frankly decadence.


we´ll have many gymnasts like the Darias in the years to come but as usual there will always be one Russian jewel that will blow our minds Smile Let´s just hope the good ones won´t be left on the road due to someone´s interest.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12-Feb-2012 13:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tchachinafan wrote:
minerva wrote:

Sooo beatifull routine, classical, elegant and complicated. She needs clean her movements, but it is a great routine. Better than Kondakova Dmitrieva and Merkulova.


FaerieDevilish wrote:
I love this.

Before 2011, she used to have simply choreographed routines that looked good no matter what her performance was, but their aesthetic potential was limited too. It was in the latest competitions in the year that she would perform them beautifully (hoop 2009 Berlin Masters, anyone? I can never find that video anymore), but you had to watch all her performances together to notice her differences. That's the approach used by most gymnasts; whether they perform beautifully or not won't get them medals, so there's no point in starting with a choreo that's complicated anyway.

I am happy to see her choreographies become more complex. It means it will take a lot more effort from her to make them look good, but when they look good they will be the best. I hope that the pressure during the OGs won't get her to perform just for the medal, because these routines aren't suited for that.

ybalka_ wrote:
I'm tired of kondakova speed, she kills any sign of execution and well doing with that speed.


Exactly. The problem is not the speed itself. I mean, who didn't love Godunko? That girl could speed through anything. But Kondakova makes it look like a splatterfest, which sucks because she's an actually damn good gymnast. I wonder how much better her routines would be if they hadn't got fixated on the 'make her run' idea.



ybalka_ wrote:

I'm with you too I like her hoop routine a lot (not her ball though). I'm tired of kondakova speed, she kills any sign of execution and well doing with that speed. Girl, the faster does not mean the better.
First of all she should try to do a single pivot on relevé, she can learn from the juniors of the team who are much better than her in almost every ways.


+100000

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I feel Russian team overall is in frankly decadence.


we´ll have many gymnasts like the Darias in the years to come but as usual there will always be one Russian jewel that will blow our minds Smile Let´s just hope the good ones won´t be left on the road due to someone´s interest.


que dios te oiga!!!

I'd be happy and satisfied just with the fact that the averinas, svatkovskaya, kudryavtseva, trubnikova, etc will make the future russian team!
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PostPosted: Sun, 12-Feb-2012 18:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

ybalka_ wrote:
Tchachinafan wrote:
minerva wrote:

Sooo beatifull routine, classical, elegant and complicated. She needs clean her movements, but it is a great routine. Better than Kondakova Dmitrieva and Merkulova.


FaerieDevilish wrote:
I love this.

Before 2011, she used to have simply choreographed routines that looked good no matter what her performance was, but their aesthetic potential was limited too. It was in the latest competitions in the year that she would perform them beautifully (hoop 2009 Berlin Masters, anyone? I can never find that video anymore), but you had to watch all her performances together to notice her differences. That's the approach used by most gymnasts; whether they perform beautifully or not won't get them medals, so there's no point in starting with a choreo that's complicated anyway.

I am happy to see her choreographies become more complex. It means it will take a lot more effort from her to make them look good, but when they look good they will be the best. I hope that the pressure during the OGs won't get her to perform just for the medal, because these routines aren't suited for that.

ybalka_ wrote:
I'm tired of kondakova speed, she kills any sign of execution and well doing with that speed.


Exactly. The problem is not the speed itself. I mean, who didn't love Godunko? That girl could speed through anything. But Kondakova makes it look like a splatterfest, which sucks because she's an actually damn good gymnast. I wonder how much better her routines would be if they hadn't got fixated on the 'make her run' idea.



ybalka_ wrote:

I'm with you too I like her hoop routine a lot (not her ball though). I'm tired of kondakova speed, she kills any sign of execution and well doing with that speed. Girl, the faster does not mean the better.
First of all she should try to do a single pivot on relevé, she can learn from the juniors of the team who are much better than her in almost every ways.


+100000

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I feel Russian team overall is in frankly decadence.


we´ll have many gymnasts like the Darias in the years to come but as usual there will always be one Russian jewel that will blow our minds Smile Let´s just hope the good ones won´t be left on the road due to someone´s interest.


que dios te oiga!!!

I'd be happy and satisfied just with the fact that the averinas, svatkovskaya, kudryavtseva, trubnikova, etc will make the future russian team!


I find Trubnikova rather promising. She was great both as an individual and group gymnast.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16-Feb-2012 19:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

An italian documentary in which there's a part dedicated to Kanaeva http://video.sky.it/sport/olimpiadi/countdown_to_london_puntata_9/v110427.vid
In my blog I tried a translation, fortunately Zhenya's parts were already translated so I reduced the number of my mistakes Laughing
http://giocosathequeen.altervista.org/road-to-london-evgenia-kanaeva/
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PostPosted: Thu, 16-Feb-2012 21:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

ĸanaeva...j& wrote:
An italian documentary in which there's a part dedicated to Kanaeva http://video.sky.it/sport/olimpiadi/countdown_to_london_puntata_9/v110427.vid
In my blog I tried a translation, fortunately Zhenya's parts were already translated so I reduced the number of my mistakes Laughing
http://giocosathequeen.altervista.org/road-to-london-evgenia-kanaeva/


Thanks ,but the video doesn't work for me.. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 16-Feb-2012 22:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalit wrote:
ĸanaeva...j& wrote:
An italian documentary in which there's a part dedicated to Kanaeva http://video.sky.it/sport/olimpiadi/countdown_to_london_puntata_9/v110427.vid
In my blog I tried a translation, fortunately Zhenya's parts were already translated so I reduced the number of my mistakes Laughing
http://giocosathequeen.altervista.org/road-to-london-evgenia-kanaeva/


Thanks ,but the video doesn't work for me.. Sad


It doesn't work in Sweden either...
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PostPosted: Thu, 16-Feb-2012 23:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Italian TV only works in Italy Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 17-Feb-2012 8:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone post it on youtube? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 17-Feb-2012 20:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you are!! Very Happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6SfwZAVGSA
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PostPosted: Fri, 17-Feb-2012 20:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

ĸanaeva...j& wrote:
Here you are!! Very Happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6SfwZAVGSA

Thanks ! i wish they were continued to show her clubs routine. Wink .
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PostPosted: Fri, 17-Feb-2012 20:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalit wrote:
ĸanaeva...j& wrote:
Here you are!! Very Happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6SfwZAVGSA

Thanks ! i wish they were continued to show her clubs routine. Wink .

You're welcome Very Happy
Btw I agree with you so we could have a better idea of how her new routine is
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PostPosted: Sun, 26-Feb-2012 20:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the RUS champ vids! Bounce
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PostPosted: Tue, 10-Apr-2012 19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Moscow World Championship EF
hoop http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq117p_evgenia-kanaeva-2010-moscow-world-champ-f-hoop_sport
ball http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq14cg_evgenia-kanaeva-2010-moscow-world-champ-f-ball_sport
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PostPosted: Sun, 6-May-2012 21:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally, Zhenya’s Pantene Pro-V commercial video comes out Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Thanks my friend Tatiana for sharing this video with me, I don’t know where did she find this video. Now I uploaded it to youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgQGpx9nMiQ
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