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PostPosted: Sun, 8-Feb-2009 7:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi when doing a log roll ,if i want to roll the ball does it have to roll twice??
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A log roll? Do you mean a split roll?
And do you mean to claim a series of rolls do you have it to roll it twice?
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PostPosted: Tue, 17-Feb-2009 7:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you reckon you can claim a change of direction in bounces? I've just been writing out my new routine and I sat and thought about this for awhile. I mean, it seems obvious that the ball must change direction in bounces, and that you could therefore claim every time you bounce, but there is nothing in the COP that says you cannot write it on your sheet.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17-Feb-2009 18:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can only add the "change of direction symbol" to bouncing when the rhythmus or the level is changing (e.g. high, low bouncing) or when the gymnast do a rotation of herself.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17-Feb-2009 19:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tahnee wrote:
Do you reckon you can claim a change of direction in bounces? I've just been writing out my new routine and I sat and thought about this for awhile. I mean, it seems obvious that the ball must change direction in bounces, and that you could therefore claim every time you bounce, but there is nothing in the COP that says you cannot write it on your sheet.


Heh, nah, I don't think that'd work. The change in direction or rhythm, etc. has to be demonstrated from one bounce to another.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17-Feb-2009 23:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

CoCoNuTsiopatHic wrote:
Tahnee wrote:
Do you reckon you can claim a change of direction in bounces? I've just been writing out my new routine and I sat and thought about this for awhile. I mean, it seems obvious that the ball must change direction in bounces, and that you could therefore claim every time you bounce, but there is nothing in the COP that says you cannot write it on your sheet.


Heh, nah, I don't think that'd work. The change in direction or rhythm, etc. has to be demonstrated from one bounce to another.


Motz

Haha, oh well. Technically, it is changing direction, and you only have to do one bounce - but yes, I can see I'm doing a bit of wishful thinking here..
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PostPosted: Thu, 19-Feb-2009 17:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I do figure eight during difficulity movement(wave), can I count it as technical movement?
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PostPosted: Fri, 27-Feb-2009 13:00    Post subject: what kind of maestry are these? Reply with quote

I need help to undestand what kind of maestry are these showed by Charkashina's ball routine in LA Tournament. According to what I undestood these three difficulties shouldn't be valid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQXk7T_mQnM&feature=related
Take a look at 0.45, at 1.05 (apart from clearly grasped ball) and 1.29!
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PostPosted: Fri, 27-Feb-2009 16:10    Post subject: Re: what kind of maestry are these? Reply with quote

pulsatilla wrote:
I need help to undestand what kind of maestry are these showed by Charkashina's ball routine in LA Tournament. According to what I undestood these three difficulties shouldn't be valid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQXk7T_mQnM&feature=related
Take a look at 0.45, at 1.05 (apart from clearly grasped ball) and 1.29!
Thank you.

To my point of view she does not show any mastery in connection with those body difficulties
at 1:29 perhaps she had not enough time to do her mastery (perhaps throw ?)
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PostPosted: Fri, 27-Feb-2009 21:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

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grga wrote:
Hi when doing a log roll ,if i want to roll the ball does it have to roll twice??
thanks


A log roll? Do you mean a split roll?
And do you mean to claim a series of rolls do you have it to roll it twice

sorry yes a split roll , if the ball rolls on the floor is that enough??
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Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 27-Feb-2009 23:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

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grga wrote:
Hi when doing a log roll ,if i want to roll the ball does it have to roll twice??
thanks


A log roll? Do you mean a split roll?
And do you mean to claim a series of rolls do you have it to roll it twice

sorry yes a split roll , if the ball rolls on the floor is that enough??
Thanks
Very Happy


From what I know, you must do three small rolls on the floor during the split roll to count as handling.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28-Feb-2009 1:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tahnee wrote:

From what I know, you must do three small rolls on the floor during the split roll to count as handling.


That was my understanding too based on the CoP--that for small rolls, rolls on the floor, and accompanied rolls to count as Mastery that they have to be performed in a series, but from what we've seen from competition videos thus far it does look like gymnasts are performing all of these little rolls in isolation, or in a sequence of 2 instead of 3. So... Not sure what to think. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat, 28-Feb-2009 13:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree with you

they have to be in serie or you have to do a long roll over 2 segments

and I also recognized, that in several routines we just could see one or two small rolls for mastery
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PostPosted: Fri, 6-Mar-2009 11:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey can someone explain to me in this video i cant extract the risk elements except one and i cant see liubov making in each flexibility a bonus i dont undersyand some of the handlings of the ball can someone explain me the composition cause i want to do a new composition and i cant plz

here is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQXk7T_mQnM&feature=related
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PostPosted: Sun, 29-Mar-2009 10:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I write it when a gymnast bounces the ball and catch it in her hollow of the knee without hand, than drop the ball from this position to the floor so that it bounces again and bounce it with her feet? Twice as bouncing without hands (0.1/0.1)? Sorry it´s hard to describe it Confused
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PostPosted: Mon, 30-Mar-2009 8:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jana I think you are right. Your second option is to write as series+without hands: 0.20 p. Which is the same value.
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