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Anna Kull
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 5153 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat, 20-Dec-2008 8:45 Post subject: 2009-2012 COP balances |
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Here is the topic for balances _________________ RG is the true reason to go on in my life! |
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cidlover
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 862 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu, 22-Jan-2009 0:17 Post subject: |
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For Anna Bessonova's clubs start:
Base: Side Split: .2
Without help: +.1
360 degree slow turn: +.4
Totat: 0.7
This is just for the balance. Is this correct? _________________ I have a gymnastics blog again. Here we go. toomanyamanars.blogspot.com
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Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 3296 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Thu, 22-Jan-2009 0:40 Post subject: |
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I think in the new COP this could be even counted as 3 balances (unheld side split, unheld side split slow turn 360, and unheld timochenko balance), since the Belova balance is no longer in the COP - not that I can see anyway. Although the first two are the same shape, so she could not have both... _________________ http://www.youtube.com/Tahnee2612 |
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Invisible Hedgehog
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 1718 Location: Ukraine, Kyiv
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Posted: Sat, 24-Jan-2009 19:05 Post subject: |
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Belova's balance is NO longer in the COP so the last position (side flexibility) counts only for D2 for flexibility (in fact this type of work is no longer evaluated for D2 so there is no sense to do what Bessonova does in the last position).
so what she does is only side split + tourlent. Which means 0.30 + 0.40 = 0.70 _________________ Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat
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Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 1:00 Post subject: |
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But could that third position, the unheld timochenko balance she goes into as the second part of the Belova balance, be counted for difficulty, as the 0.6? _________________ http://www.youtube.com/Tahnee2612 |
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CoCoNuTsiopatHic
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 819
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 5:23 Post subject: |
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Tahnee wrote: | But could that third position, the unheld timochenko balance she goes into as the second part of the Belova balance, be counted for difficulty, as the 0.6? |
Bessonova always did it on flat foot, though, since that was all the Code of Points asked for. Kapranova would keep her foot on the toe, however. _________________ *Elegance is an attitude.* |
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Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 3296 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 9:06 Post subject: |
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CoCoNuTsiopatHic wrote: | Tahnee wrote: | But could that third position, the unheld timochenko balance she goes into as the second part of the Belova balance, be counted for difficulty, as the 0.6? |
Bessonova always did it on flat foot, though, since that was all the Code of Points asked for. Kapranova would keep her foot on the toe, however. |
Well in Kapranova's case, then there would be 2 separate balances.. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/Tahnee2612 |
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Invisible Hedgehog
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 1718 Location: Ukraine, Kyiv
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 9:52 Post subject: |
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yes it could be a separate balance if ONLY Kapranova did D2 in that balance which she never did. _________________ Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat
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Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 10:55 Post subject: |
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Invisible Hedgehog wrote: | yes it could be a separate balance if ONLY Kapranova did D2 in that balance which she never did. |
Obviously, yes... _________________ http://www.youtube.com/Tahnee2612 |
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gabrielafs
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 169 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 13:54 Post subject: |
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well, I always thought that anna does a promenade in the start of her clubs routine ... |
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Invisible Hedgehog
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 1718 Location: Ukraine, Kyiv
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 14:34 Post subject: |
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yes, she did...what's the problem? _________________ Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat
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gabrielafs
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 169 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 19:00 Post subject: |
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Invisible Hedgehog wrote: | yes, she did...what's the problem? |
In fact, Is there any diference between Tour lent and promenade ?? |
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CoCoNuTsiopatHic
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 20:20 Post subject: |
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gabrielafs wrote: | Invisible Hedgehog wrote: | yes, she did...what's the problem? |
In fact, Is there any diference between Tour lent and promenade ?? |
All promenades are tour lents, but not all tour lents are promenades.
All cognac is brandy, but not all brandy is cognac!
"Tour lent" is French for 'slow turn", which are done in balances and flexibilities. When a slow turning flexibility is performed on flat foot, we typically call it a "promenade" whereas slow turning balances are referred to as "tour lents". _________________ *Elegance is an attitude.* |
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Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 3296 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Sun, 25-Jan-2009 23:21 Post subject: |
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gabrielafs wrote: | Invisible Hedgehog wrote: | yes, she did...what's the problem? |
In fact, Is there any diference between Tour lent and promenade ?? |
To put it simply, tour lent is on toe, and promenade is on flat foot. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/Tahnee2612 |
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elli
Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 165 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon, 26-Jan-2009 12:52 Post subject: |
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Quote: | well, I always thought that anna does a promenade in the start of her clubs routine ... |
Quote: | "Tour lent" is French for 'slow turn", which are done in balances and flexibilities. When a slow turning flexibility is performed on flat foot, we typically call it a "promenade" whereas slow turning balances are referred to as "tour lents". |
well, then it isn*t a promenade, but a tour lent, anna does , because she does it on releve, doesn*t she?
I have a question to the tourlents (especially in cossack position) no matter if old or new code I think its the same, but : can I do less then 90° per impulse, so that I, for example if I perform it as E , so 180° total, do more than to impulses, f. ex. 4 impulse à 45°??
because I always saw it like that f. ex. here at 0: 54: :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REgqlILMKGo&feature=related
at least to me it looks like shes doing 4 impulses
But now I saw in the CoP that i only says NOT MORE than 1/4 turn per impulse.
so I can do more "impulses and less turn per impulse instead of just doing 2 impulses a 90°?
Do you understand my problem? _________________ Congrats to Anya!!!YEAH!!!
>>>>>photo: thanks to www.barny-th.de |
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