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Begotxu
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Posted: Thu, 28-Feb-2013 9:29 Post subject: |
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Yes, flat foot on penché is 0,40+0.20 for each rotation and in relevé is worth 0,50+0.20 |
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Artistry Fan
Joined: 14 Feb 2013 Posts: 656 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu, 28-Feb-2013 18:16 Post subject: |
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Thank you for the correction! I did not know that and will keep it in mind next time.
Dance Steps:
0:37-0:45: Fundamental - Spirals (.30)
0:57-1:14: Fundamental - Spirals on Floor (.30)
Dance Steps: .60
Total Difficulty (Body + Dance): 5.20
Credited Difficulty (Body + Dance): 5.00
If anyone can do Risk or Mastery, please feel free.
I am still trying to figure out how to score these two and waiting on more explanation for them. In the meantime, I will start Body Difficulty + Dance for another routine. |
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charleslch
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 8760
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Posted: Thu, 28-Feb-2013 19:44 Post subject: |
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Artistry Fan wrote: | Thank you for the correction! I did not know that and will keep it in mind next time.
Dance Steps:
0:57-1:14: Fundamental - Spirals on Floor (.30) |
I could be really biased for this one, but I think it can be split into two sequences cause 1) it comprises 17 seconds, and 2) there's a 'transition' at around 1:05 I mean why wouldn't they declare another dance step when there's enough seconds? it's a 0.3
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Artistry Fan
Joined: 14 Feb 2013 Posts: 656 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu, 28-Feb-2013 19:51 Post subject: |
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charleslch wrote: | Artistry Fan wrote: | Thank you for the correction! I did not know that and will keep it in mind next time.
Dance Steps:
0:57-1:14: Fundamental - Spirals on Floor (.30) |
I could be really biased for this one, but I think it can be split into two sequences cause 1) it comprises 17 seconds, and 2) there's a 'transition' at around 1:05 I mean why wouldn't they declare another dance step when there's enough seconds? it's a 0.3
IH please tell us about this))))) |
I was thinking the same exact thing! It's way too long and could be counted as 2 separate dance steps. Also, from the Jan 2013 Errata:
"During a minimum of 8 seconds in accordance with the tempo and rhythm of the music (it is possible to perform body difficulties or pre-acrobatic elements during the dance steps, but these elements cannot be counted as part of the 8 seconds; there must be 8 seconds of actual dance steps)"
I was thinking first would be [Spirals on Floor] 0:57-1:07, then I guess [Spirals] 1:10-1:15 - which is less than 8 - but would link to the dancing in 1:25-1:28 to meet requirement.. even though it is interrupted twice before resuming. Can you do that? Then she would have 3 total Dance for .90.
Would love to also hear IH's perspective on this one. |
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Artistry Fan
Joined: 14 Feb 2013 Posts: 656 Location: United States
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Posted: Fri, 8-Mar-2013 4:32 Post subject: |
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Body Difficulty:
flat penchee + attitude w/ arch (.50 +.40 + .10 connection = 1.00)
turning split w/ arch (.50; insufficient bend so no bonus)
turning split w/ arch (.50 + .20 bend = .70)
turning stag w/ arch (.30 + .20 bend = .50)
1080 flat penchee pivot (.40 + .20 = .60; last rotation incomplete and sliding.. to me she fixes position facing SW/W direction and ends S)
backscale w/ leg high (.50)
sidescale w/ no help, leg high (.50)
9 fouettes (.10; sliding and hopping on others, I credited only first)
TOTAL: 5.60
GIVE: 4.40
Dance Steps:
0:01-0:05 and 0:12-0:18: Other - Catch w/ One Hand (.30)
0:32-0:40: Fundamental - Roll of Ball Over Min. 2 Segments (.30)
0:57-1:05: Roll of Body over Ball on Floor (.30)
TOTAL (Body + Dance): 6.50
GIVE (Body + Dance): 5.30
1080 flat penchee (.40 + .20 + .20 = .80)
1440 attitude (.30; credit 1 due to hop before finishing 2nd rot.)
turning split w/ arch (.50 + .20 bend = .70)
ring balance w/ no help (.40)
1080 arabesque (NO; slide on 1st rot. and below horizontal)
walkover to penchee flat (.50 + .10 rotation = .60)
turning double stag w/ arch (.40 + .20 bend = .60)
walkover to back scale (NO; drop)
360 ring w/ help (.30)
TOTAL: 6.10
GIVE: 3.70 (Sorry, Mazur )
Dance Steps:
0:06-0:23: Fundamental - Roll of Ball Over Min. 2 Segments (.30)
0:30-0:39: Other - Unstable Balance (0.30)
0:46-0:54: Other - Assisted Series of Small Roll
TOTAL (Body + Dance): 7.00
GIVE (Body + Dance): 4.60
I wonder if you can claim two bases for Steps? At the beginning of Mazur's, for example, could she write Roll of Ball on Floor and Roll of Ball Over 2 Segments?
As, always.. corrections appreciated and I still don't get how to calculate Risk & Mastery so if someone wants to do them, I'd love to see an example. |
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Denisa
Joined: 29 May 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Bucharest
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Posted: Fri, 8-Mar-2013 8:49 Post subject: |
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Artistry Fan wrote: | I wonder if you can claim two bases for Steps? |
Yes you can. In fact coaches will prefer to put more fundamental bases in front of a dance steps in order to have those 50%. |
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Artistry Fan
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Posted: Fri, 8-Mar-2013 8:51 Post subject: |
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Denisa wrote: | Artistry Fan wrote: | I wonder if you can claim two bases for Steps? |
Yes you can. In fact coaches will prefer to put more fundamental bases in front of a dance steps in order to have those 50%. |
Okay, so even if a sequence is only 8 seconds long.. she can have it count twice for rhythmic steps and get .60? |
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Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 3296 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Fri, 8-Mar-2013 10:53 Post subject: |
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Dance steps are still worth 0.30 no matter how many bases you put with them... You would just have more to increase your predominance of Fundamental Groups. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/Tahnee2612 |
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Artistry Fan
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Posted: Fri, 8-Mar-2013 11:53 Post subject: |
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Tahnee wrote: | Dance steps are still worth 0.30 no matter how many bases you put with them... You would just have more to increase your predominance of Fundamental Groups. |
Got it! Thanks Denisa and Tahnee. |
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Ashanty
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 282
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Posted: Wed, 13-Mar-2013 15:04 Post subject: |
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How many body difficulties has Lala Yusifova at her ball routine??? I haven't noticed yet, but I swear after watching the video for five times I count 10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwQC_MaGwgk |
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Themis
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Posted: Wed, 13-Mar-2013 16:53 Post subject: |
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I suppose that the very last movement -balance with backbend and roll is not a body difficulty. And of course fouette with attitude is multiple pivot.Then there are 9 difficulties. More important question - does she do different handling in all difficulties? Please tell me? |
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Ashanty
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 282
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Posted: Wed, 13-Mar-2013 20:54 Post subject: |
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Themis wrote: | I suppose that the very last movement -balance with backbend and roll is not a body difficulty. And of course fouette with attitude is multiple pivot.Then there are 9 difficulties. More important question - does she do different handling in all difficulties? Please tell me? |
Last backbend balance is a difficult which value is 0.4 that's why I think she has 10 body elements |
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charleslch
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 8760
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Posted: Wed, 13-Mar-2013 21:15 Post subject: |
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Ashanty wrote: | Themis wrote: | I suppose that the very last movement -balance with backbend and roll is not a body difficulty. And of course fouette with attitude is multiple pivot.Then there are 9 difficulties. More important question - does she do different handling in all difficulties? Please tell me? |
Last backbend balance is a difficult which value is 0.4 that's why I think she has 10 body elements |
This is indeed questionable. The only thing I can think of is that maybe she didn't roll the ball over at least 2 body segments? _________________ Click here to download my mixes.
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Ashanty
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 282
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Posted: Wed, 13-Mar-2013 22:29 Post subject: |
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charleslch wrote: | Ashanty wrote: | Themis wrote: | I suppose that the very last movement -balance with backbend and roll is not a body difficulty. And of course fouette with attitude is multiple pivot.Then there are 9 difficulties. More important question - does she do different handling in all difficulties? Please tell me? |
Last backbend balance is a difficult which value is 0.4 that's why I think she has 10 body elements |
This is indeed questionable. The only thing I can think of is that maybe she didn't roll the ball over at least 2 body segments? |
yes, she did! She starts the roll (or she should start) at her chest and then arms |
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charleslch
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 8760
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Posted: Thu, 14-Mar-2013 0:26 Post subject: |
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Ashanty wrote: | charleslch wrote: | Ashanty wrote: | Themis wrote: | I suppose that the very last movement -balance with backbend and roll is not a body difficulty. And of course fouette with attitude is multiple pivot.Then there are 9 difficulties. More important question - does she do different handling in all difficulties? Please tell me? |
Last backbend balance is a difficult which value is 0.4 that's why I think she has 10 body elements |
This is indeed questionable. The only thing I can think of is that maybe she didn't roll the ball over at least 2 body segments? |
yes, she did! She starts the roll (or she should start) at her chest and then arms |
oh right, then maybe the balance wasn't clearly fixed in shape as mentioned in the code...? _________________ Click here to download my mixes.
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