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Rhythmicfriend
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 179 Location: france
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Posted: Sun, 26-Sep-2004 22:50 Post subject: NEW COP 2005 for DRESS |
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Here is after the New COP 2005 for Dress =
6. DRESS OF GYMNASTS
6.1. INDIVIDUAL AND GROUP GYMNASTS
6.1.1. A correct gymnastic leotard must be in non-transparent material; therefore, leotards that have some part in lace will have to be lined (from the trunk to the chest). The neckline of the front and back of the leotard must be proper (no further than half of the sternum and no further than the lower line of the shoulder blades).
Leotards may be with or without sleeves, but dance leotards with narrow straps are not allowed.
The cut of the leotard at the top of the legs must not go beyond the fold of the crotch (maximum).
The leotard must be skin tight to enable the judges to evaluate the correct position of every part of the body.
NOTES: It is allowed to wear:
1. Long tights down to the ankles, OVER the leotard.
2. A full-length one-piece leotard ( unitard), provided that it is skin tight.
3. A skirt that adheres to the hips but does not fall further than the pelvic area of the leotard
4. A skirt that adheres to the hips but does not fall further than the pelvic area on THE TIGHTS or the UNITARD.
5. The style of the skirt is free as long as it conforms to the two conditions above: adhering and short.
6.1.2 Gymnasts may perform their exercise with bare feet or gymnastic slippers.
6.1.3 The hairstyle must be neat and trim and the make-up light.
6.2 GROUP GYMNASTS
The leotards of group gymnasts must be identical in shape and in colour.
So, we can see two things =
1°) the SKIRT is allowed now with the Leotard,
or with the TIGHTS , or with the UNITARD.
2°) ONE THING IMPORTANT : The TIGHTS MUST be worn OVER the Leotard . But......from THIAIS, CORBEIL, KIEV and ATHENS, many Gymnasts wear their tights UNDER the leotard.
They are ALL , OUT of RULES .
What will decide the FIG for the future ??? |
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Isabel
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon, 27-Sep-2004 16:25 Post subject: Skirts |
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Does this mean that Skirts can now be several layers and can be made of strips? Both of these were not allowed in the previous code. _________________ ~Isabel~
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Esther
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 2522
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Posted: Mon, 27-Sep-2004 17:11 Post subject: |
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what is the difference between long pants and unitard? both are like the same to me can someone explain? or is it that the long pants are skin-coloured |
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Rhythmicfriend
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 179 Location: france
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Posted: Mon, 27-Sep-2004 17:29 Post subject: |
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" 5. The style of the skirt is free as long as it conforms to the two conditions above: adhering and short. "
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The Style of the Skirts being free, I think YES, it's possible.
The only conditions are that the skirt must adhere the Hips on each side, and must not be lower than the pelvic area.
But ATTENTION ! you say that it was not allowed in the previous Code .
This is quite wrong. I don't know who could tell you that. Very often people misinterpret the Code.
There was NO TEXT on the previous Code 2001-2004 , where you can read that.
On this previous Code you could read ( as in the new CODE 2005 ) =
" 6.1.1. A correct gymnastic leotard must be in non-transparent material; therefore, leotards that have some part in lace will have to be lined (from the trunk to the chest). The neckline of the front and back of the leotard must be proper (no further than half of the sternum and no further than the lower line of the shoulder blades).
NOTES: It is allowed to wear:
1. Long tights down to the ankles, OVER the leotard.
2. A full-length one-piece leotard ( unitard), provided that it is skin tight.
3. A skirt that adheres to the hips but does not fall further than the pelvic area of the leotard .
6.1.2 Gymnasts may perform their exercise with bare feet or gymnastic slippers.
6.1.3 The hairstyle must be neat and trim .
6.2 GROUP GYMNASTS
The leotards of group gymnasts must be identical in shape and in colour. "
What is NEW ?
= 4. A skirt that adheres to the hips but does not fall further than the pelvic area on THE TIGHTS or the UNITARD.
5. The style of the skirt is free as long as it conforms to the two conditions above: adhering and short.
6.1.3 ............................................and the make-up light.
Nothing else has changed for the Code. But for the gymnasts , some have taken the liberty to wear the TIGHTS under the leotard. THAT is not allowed. |
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Rhythmicfriend
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 179 Location: france
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Posted: Mon, 27-Sep-2004 20:10 Post subject: |
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Esther Posted: Mon, 27-Sep-2004 17:11 Post subject:
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what is the difference between long pants and unitard? both are like the same to me can someone explain? or is it that the long pants are skin-coloured
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You know what is a traditional LEOTARD.
A Unitard is a Leotard with long legs, in only one piece.
A long pant is like a tight , but without leotard, generaly in Lycra or velvet, but not transparent like lace for the tights. |
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Esther
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 2522
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Posted: Tue, 28-Sep-2004 11:40 Post subject: |
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i think i sorta understand the difference. i just needed some clarification. thanks for your help! |
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Alina Fan
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 751 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Tue, 28-Sep-2004 11:45 Post subject: |
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Nothing really new with this... _________________ Žuja je zakon!
Marina for Beijing! The girls has it all. Handling, expression, artistry, flexibility, perfect smile...everything that a gymnast needs to be just perfect! |
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Kaja =)
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 5421 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue, 28-Sep-2004 20:45 Post subject: |
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"A correct gymnastic leotard must be in non-transparent material"
What!? But - everybody have got leo's with some transparent parts!!! Am I misunderstanding this or will this no longer be allowed? _________________ And those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music |
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Rhythmicfriend
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 179 Location: france
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Posted: Wed, 29-Sep-2004 7:33 Post subject: |
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You are right. Everybody has got leos with some transparent parts.
BUT read well - The text gives the following precision =
"therefore, leotards that have some part in lace will have to be lined (from the trunk to the chest). "
You must understand, that the part where the transparence is forbidden is =
-from the trunck to the chest.-
on this part, all material-fabrics in lace or similar transparent MUST BE LINED.
That is the Rules.
After that, it is to the Responsibles of the competitions to require the respect of the Rules. |
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Angel Li
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 949
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Posted: Wed, 29-Sep-2004 10:02 Post subject: |
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Rhythmicfriend wrote: | You are right. Everybody has got leos with some transparent parts.
BUT read well - The text gives the following precision =
"therefore, leotards that have some part in lace will have to be lined (from the trunk to the chest). "
You must understand, that the part where the transparence is forbidden is =
-from the trunck to the chest.-
on this part, all material-fabrics in lace or similar transparent MUST BE LINED.
That is the Rules.
After that, it is to the Responsibles of the competitions to require the respect of the Rules. |
Sorry, but I don't understand you quite well...
Trunk to chest? In this case, is Ira's OG red ribbon leo an allowed leo under the new COP? What is the meaning of lined? So, is, for example, Anna's OG final swan leo forbidden under the new COP? _________________ Angel Li |
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Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
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Posted: Wed, 29-Sep-2004 14:20 Post subject: |
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To me, it seems as though the rules in the COP are the same as used now, but better defined than earlier.
Perhaps except the skirts rule... Did they have to adhere to the hips before? Does that mean that "circular" skirts (the ones that fly into the air when the gymnast jumps or turns) are not allowed?
The rule about transparency means that if you use transparent material on the trunk, you need to wear a camisole - a non-transparent suit, often white or skin-colour - underneath it. If the transparent material is only on the top of the chest and/or on the arms, you don't need to wear anything underneath. |
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Rhythmicfriend
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 179 Location: france
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Posted: Wed, 29-Sep-2004 21:17 Post subject: |
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MarieMM said=
The rule about transparency means that if you use transparent material on the trunk, you need to wear a camisole - a non-transparent suit, often white or skin-colour - underneath it. If the transparent material is only on the top of the chest and/or on the arms, you don't need to wear anything underneath.
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You are right for the transparency.
The New Code says =
"The leotard must be SKIN TIGHT to enable the judges to evaluate the correct position of every part of the body."
That means for THE LEOTARD. Not for the Skirt.
For the Skirt it is only written to adhere to the HIPS.Only the HIPS . The HIPS being both Lateral Parts of pelvis, it's not asked to adhere in front and on the back.
This rule to adhere on the hips was already in the previous Code after Sydney.
But the FIG Comitee doesn't want that the skirts fly into the air as in Ice skate.
The advice I can give to the gymnasts is simple =
To be in accordance with the Code you have only the sew a small point each side of the skirt , under to the leotard, 2 inches lower the waist, at Hips level. That's all. Doing so, the Skirt is adhering the hips- only the hips. |
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Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
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Posted: Wed, 29-Sep-2004 22:38 Post subject: |
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So it means that it has to be connected to the leotard/etc by the hips (not above or below)? That would make sense... I thought "adhere" meant that the skirt itself had to stay tight to the hips! |
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arwenmy
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Malaysia
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Posted: Fri, 1-Oct-2004 7:17 Post subject: |
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[quote="Angel Li"][quote="Rhythmicfriend"]You are right. Everybody has got leos with some transparent parts.
BUT read well - The text gives the following precision =
"therefore, leotards that have some part in lace will have to be lined (from the trunk to the chest). "
You must understand, that the part where the transparence is forbidden is =
-from the trunck to the chest.-
on this part, all material-fabrics in lace or similar transparent MUST BE LINED.
That is the Rules.
After that, it is to the Responsibles of the competitions to require the respect of the Rules.[/quote]
Sorry, but I don't understand you quite well...
Trunk to chest? In this case, is Ira's OG red ribbon leo an allowed leo under the new COP? What is the meaning of lined? So, is, for example, Anna's OG final swan leo forbidden under the new COP?[/quote]
i would like to know too .... can anyone explain ?
[quote]all material-fabrics in lace or similar transparent MUST BE LINED.
That is the Rules.
[/quote]
btw , does this means the transparent part have to be cover by design so that it does not look too transparent ? |
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Isabel
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri, 1-Oct-2004 13:41 Post subject: Lining/skirts |
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It appears that this is another rule that does not apply to everyone. Recently there have been many suits worn by the top competitors that are not lined and the athlete is not wearing a camisole. You can see the bra straps through the mesh.
Regarding the skirts. I can't recall if it was the worlds right after Sydney or the following ones where gymnasts were not allows to wear layers\ed skirts. I remember that Emilie Livingston had to trade and wear a different leotard to avoid deductions. However at the World Group competition the USA team appeared to have a skirt that was layers but was very flat not like skating skirts and they were not deducted.
There was something in the old rules that said the skirts needed to be one piece and that long strips were not allowed. In Canada there was even some concern about slits on the side of the leg but as long as these don't go all the way to the hip line they are ok. I remember that after Sydney there were a number of skirtsmade of strips that athletes stopped wearing and worn only for exhibitions.
I guess that the first few competions will be a watching game to see what the top athletes are allowed and then we can follow suit. _________________ ~Isabel~
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